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Mods only by hooks
« on: December 09, 2014, 09:25:29 AM »
If possible try to have all new mods of 2.1 by hooks, so there will be no change in basic files of smf and thus easy to install and uninstall

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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2014, 09:28:23 AM »
1- that is up to the mod authors
2- once again --   since you have no copyright displayed, you will receive limited, if any support by most of this community.
(actually, I think you are in legal violation of the simple portal mod, since you removed their copyright as well, which is NOT legally allowed, AFAIK)
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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2014, 09:36:28 AM »
1. It is entirely possible to do even very complex mods with hooks but it does depend on what the mod is doing and how much skill and determination the mod author has with using hooks.

@Kindred: SimplePortal 2.3.6 is BSD licensed meaning this could be legal now.
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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2014, 08:14:36 PM »
It is certainly legal to remove the copyright of SimplePortal that is displayed on the website (but not from the code). SP has never really enforced it before, but no harm will come to anyone who removes the copyright display from a site utilizing SimplePortal.

If someone desires to get support for SimplePortal from an official avenue, either SimplePortal.net or the SimplePortal mod thread here at SM.org, we ask that they do not remove or tamper with the SimplePortal copyright. Once removed, we ask that users rely on their own expertise for troubleshooting SimplePortal, or make a donation to SimplePortal.net in order to receive official support.
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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2014, 08:16:52 PM »
Thanks for the clarification :)
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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2014, 08:24:02 PM »
Not a problem. Feel free to quote me if it comes up again.
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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2014, 08:41:55 PM »
Thanks... So, essentially the same attitude that we hold here.   Glad that is clarified.
However, since the user realinfo has removed the smf copyright, and we have told him, several dozen times, that doing so means that he feels that he doesn't need our support, it stuns me that he keeps coming back and asking for stuff, without putting the cooyright back.

(The user even tried to set up a fake account to get help after we flagged him the first time)
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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2014, 02:44:46 AM »
1. In this topic I'm not asking for any support, just suggesting to make SMF better

2. I'm having  SMF from more than 7 years, I guided hundreds of people to install it, So i feel part of it

3. One day come when we are civilized enough to not care much about these small things

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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2014, 02:58:17 AM »
That may be because this is a support board. ;)

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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2014, 09:45:11 AM »
1. In this topic I'm not asking for any support, just suggesting to make SMF better

2. I'm having  SMF from more than 7 years, I guided hundreds of people to install it, So i feel part of it

3. One day come when we are civilized enough to not care much about these small things

 Thanks

Removing the credit for someone's hard work is neither civilised nor small.
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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2014, 10:58:38 AM »
Not a problem. Feel free to quote me if it comes up again.

Hello, I am waiting to see SimplePortal in SMF 2.1  :D


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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2014, 09:20:19 PM »
Not a problem. Feel free to quote me if it comes up again.

Hello, I am waiting to see SimplePortal in SMF 2.1  :D



Hello,

A recent discussion on the subject at SimplePortal.net featured our lead developer indicating that he was holding off on SMF 2.1 development until it was further along. At this point, in beta software, there is still some features and code that would change, and so with his current workload and time, he feels it is wiser to wait until SMF 2.1 is at a more mature release before evaluating SimplePortal's development goals.

We appreciate your patience and hope you continue to enjoy using SimplePortal on SMF 2.0.
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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2014, 07:26:43 AM »
Not a problem. Feel free to quote me if it comes up again.

Hello, I am waiting to see SimplePortal in SMF 2.1  :D



Hello,

A recent discussion on the subject at SimplePortal.net featured our lead developer indicating that he was holding off on SMF 2.1 development until it was further along. At this point, in beta software, there is still some features and code that would change, and so with his current workload and time, he feels it is wiser to wait until SMF 2.1 is at a more mature release before evaluating SimplePortal's development goals.

We appreciate your patience and hope you continue to enjoy using SimplePortal on SMF 2.0.
If the mod is coded with hooks (and SP is using hooks as much as it can, as far as i know) than there is not much things possible to change (at least not the things that will make difference for mods). Biggest problem will be templates but they can not change much (only bug fixes are applied and i didnt notice any bugs, means that there wont be major changes)

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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2014, 08:15:03 AM »
You are distinctly incorrect.


First - I don't think a portal can be run ONLY on hooks.
Second - suggesting thatt he theme/template is full stable is just plain wrong.
Although we don't INTEND to do it again...  in 2.0 RC3 - the template has a MAJOR change.
Third - This is BETA 1 !! There is ALWAYS the possibility or major change after a beta 1....  less so after RC version have been started... but even then....
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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2014, 09:29:34 AM »
You are distinctly incorrect.


First - I don't think a portal can be run ONLY on hooks.
Second - suggesting thatt he theme/template is full stable is just plain wrong.
Although we don't INTEND to do it again...  in 2.0 RC3 - the template has a MAJOR change.
Third - This is BETA 1 !! There is ALWAYS the possibility or major change after a beta 1....  less so after RC version have been started... but even then....

For the record, 1.1 RC2 was also accompanied by a new theme (Core). ;)
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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2014, 09:37:00 AM »
You are distinctly incorrect.


First - I don't think a portal can be run ONLY on hooks.

Sure it can. I did it before.
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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2014, 09:42:29 AM »
hmm.... OK.  Well, the other points still stand. :D
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Re: Mods only by hooks
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2014, 09:44:13 AM »
True, but remember this is me we're talking about... If it can be done, you know it would be me that would figure it out ;D

I still have the proof of concept code somewhere.
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