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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #80 on: February 12, 2011, 06:21:10 AM »
Well, I will use the Upgrade package.

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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #81 on: February 12, 2011, 06:55:26 AM »
Vice versa. What's so hard in bundling a set of files? I don't want more than 1000 files, Smileys, unchanged Themes and periodically changed empty lines before EOF. Diff is nice but I still have to build my own patch.

You don't have to build a patch. A security patch was provided. So it's not necessary to do the large upgrade. I could understand a full patch being made in a final version update. I don't think we have ever done patches for updates when in RC.
I don't care about the 2.0RCn. I just want a package of the changed¹ files for the stable 1.1.x version. No "small update" with over 1000 files, no "patch" in dumb package manager format and no hidden attachments in announcement posts.

¹ The ones with significant differences. Not the ones with nicer whitespaces.

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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #82 on: February 12, 2011, 07:24:07 AM »
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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #83 on: February 12, 2011, 07:26:45 AM »
Well done guys, any need to update mods?

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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #84 on: February 12, 2011, 07:31:18 AM »
Thank you for SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch Team ;-)

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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #85 on: February 12, 2011, 07:37:50 AM »
Vice versa. What's so hard in bundling a set of files? I don't want more than 1000 files, Smileys, unchanged Themes and periodically changed empty lines before EOF. Diff is nice but I still have to build my own patch.

You don't have to build a patch. A security patch was provided. So it's not necessary to do the large upgrade. I could understand a full patch being made in a final version update. I don't think we have ever done patches for updates when in RC.
I don't care about the 2.0RCn. I just want a package of the changed¹ files for the stable 1.1.x version. No "small update" with over 1000 files, no "patch" in dumb package manager format and no hidden attachments in announcement posts.

¹ The ones with significant differences. Not the ones with nicer whitespaces.
What you are requesting is already done; the small update package.

If you do not like that then that's your loss.

And the ""patch" in dump package manager format" also does what you want without uploading update packages.
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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #86 on: February 12, 2011, 08:24:12 AM »
Not really. It's a stop-gap because the team has decided to tie the release of the software with a political process that began very late in the development cycle. It's ******ing stupid, but it's what they decided. If this wasn't the case, it is likely that RC5 would have been an actual gold release. Instead, they further alienate what little passionate community members they have with total bull******.

I would have just released 2.0 under the old license and then made a point release under a new license when the license work was complete rather than let the popularity languish and seed doubt of viability of the project. It wouldn't be too difficult to also re-release the older points with the new license at a later time if they really wanted to.

Instead, the software is being held hostage to legal antics from a last-minute decision. Typical.
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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #87 on: February 12, 2011, 08:52:49 AM »
Can someone help me understand why a version number matters?  What's the difference between a piece of software being labelled "version 2.0" and "version 2.0 RC 12,000" if they are identical code-wise?

I just don't get all the people who won't run an RC package just because it's labelled "RC."  Stability isn't a factor people.  It's just a number unless I'm missing something.  You'd seriously go through the trouble of changing platforms based on that?  Surely I'm missing something here...   ???

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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #88 on: February 12, 2011, 09:51:22 AM »
Can someone help me understand why a version number matters?  What's the difference between a piece of software being labelled "version 2.0" and "version 2.0 RC 12,000" if they are identical code-wise?
I agree!

Heres tutorial how to get SMF 2.0 gold.

1. upgrade to RC5
2. open  index.php in your forums root with FTP
3. find:
Code: [Select]
$forum_version = 'SMF 2.0 RC5';4. replace:
Code: [Select]
$forum_version = 'SMF 2.0';5. Save.

Done.
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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #89 on: February 12, 2011, 09:54:01 AM »
Thanks for the latest release!

Got a lot of upgrading to do -.-"

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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #90 on: February 12, 2011, 09:57:55 AM »
While it's great to see another update, it's a shame that the final 2.0 version seems to be being further delayed. I'm wondering roughly how long this licensing process is going to take?

The RC is usable, yes, but many developers of addons and bridges are reluctant to update their software until the final is released. - Hence many are stuck with 1.x until the final is released.

It's that "It's only in RC, so I'll update this bridge once the final is out" attitude which tends to cause problems if you want to integrate SMF with any other software.

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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2011, 10:02:30 AM »
Perhaps because the 2.0 Gold release removes the liability disclaimer
 Note: As this is in development, we do not recommend running SMF 2.0 RC5 on a production site.
A lot of dedicated long time users who have spent long hours on making their forums they way they like it are scared off by this. This has been stated in several posts of late. They are tired of the long production time (what ever the reason) and want the reassurance of a stable release which would be 2.0 Gold and the removal of this disclaimer before they attempt an update. I'm sure the mod and theme authors are at their wits end too because for every RC they are required to make changes to support the RC. I've seen many good mods fall and are no longer supported or fixed for RC's because of this. Theme production and updates have like wise fallen off.
 
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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #92 on: February 12, 2011, 10:07:50 AM »
RR: And we have already stated the reason that 2.0 final is not out yet.
However, your data on theme and mod issues is somewhat flawed since almost every mod and theme made for RC3 or higher will work on RC3, RC4 and RC5 (and final)
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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #93 on: February 12, 2011, 10:15:26 AM »
RR: And we have already stated the reason that 2.0 final is not out yet.
However, your data on theme and mod issues is somewhat flawed since almost every mod and theme made for RC3 or higher will work on RC3, RC4 and RC5 (and final)

Curious that you have centered me out for your reply when many others have expressed the same points of view. Read the posts before mine. I'm appreciative that on this occassion you were actually civil and didn't simply dismiss my contribution by calling me a Troll again.
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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #94 on: February 12, 2011, 10:16:30 AM »
I've seen many good mods fall and are no longer supported or fixed for RC's because of this. Theme production and updates have like wise fallen off.
Pieces of SMF and its team have been falling all over the place throughout its 5-years development time. By now, SMF is clearly just a pale shadow of what it once was. 2.0 RC6 will further prove this dying breed, when it comes out in a few months. As for 2.0 gold, it's probably going to be for Christmas, so as to get more traffic in here, when the few developers left need to reap extra money from the ads on the site.

Not really. It's a stop-gap because the team has decided to tie the release of the software with a political process that began very late in the development cycle. It's ******ing stupid, but it's what they decided. If this wasn't the case, it is likely that RC5 would have been an actual gold release. Instead, they further alienate what little passionate community members they have with total bull******.

I would have just released 2.0 under the old license and then made a point release under a new license when the license work was complete rather than let the popularity languish and seed doubt of viability of the project. It wouldn't be too difficult to also re-release the older points with the new license at a later time if they really wanted to.

Instead, the software is being held hostage to legal antics from a last-minute decision. Typical.
I am so glad that your are not Project manager anymore.
I wonder why he was fired from the team... Possibly because he was fed up with all the drama and started telling the truth about what was really going on behind-the-scenes. Actually, we can't even call it that any more, as the whole community must be aware by now that something is seriously wrong with the way things are being managed here. The point being, when 2.0 final is eventually released, there won't be much left of this community to keep it afloat. Most of the modification developers have already stopped coming to this site, with some being away since a year or more! SMF is being set up on a self-destruction path, right before our eyes.
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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #95 on: February 12, 2011, 10:48:51 AM »
i'm not sure this is the right place. In case, i'm sorry and please move me to the right place.
i tried to upgrade an almost-empty 2.0 RC4 on sqlite, to RC5.
unpacked, then ran upgrade.php
it hangs at step 17.
then i try to re-run the upgrade, it starts from step 18 and hangs again.
then i try to re-run, and this time it starts from step 1 and hangs at step 17. Loop to previous line of this post.

I opened the sqlite file and it appears as both steps 17 and 18 were done (indexes were created and others deleted).

If no solution comes i'll revert to RC4 and apply the simple fix.
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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #96 on: February 12, 2011, 10:49:52 AM »
Heres tutorial how to get SMF 2.0 gold.

1. upgrade to RC5
2. open  index.php in your forums root with FTP
3. find:
Code: [Select]
$forum_version = 'SMF 2.0 RC5';4. replace:
Code: [Select]
$forum_version = 'SMF 2.0';5. Save.

Done.


This can break mods compatibility.

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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #97 on: February 12, 2011, 10:55:09 AM »
This can break mods compatibility.
How? What mod checks after installation what version SMF is? And if you install mod, you can simulate any SMF version you want in package manager.
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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #98 on: February 12, 2011, 11:12:53 AM »
However, your data on theme and mod issues is somewhat flawed since almost every mod and theme made for RC3 or higher will work on RC3, RC4 and RC5 (and final)

From my personal experience with RC4, none, I repeat, none of the mods or theme I used with RC3 cleanly installed using the "Emulation" method. They all required author updates to install and work properly with RC4.
If you attend the "Support" folder there are many occasions where people have been told to use the "Emulation" method where some have worked but many more have resulted in requests for help because they unwittingly installed un-updated mods and themes that botched their sites. In fact many have been advised by support staff and others to ask the author to update their mods or themes to work with RC4. The authors reply? They no longer support the theme or mod for RC's and are waiting for a stable release.
 
My hat is off to all those authors who diligently update their projects shortly after a new RC release. They are the ones who are dedicated to seeing that users are taken care of and are the continued supporters of SMF. Kudos guys and girls.
 
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Re: SMF 1.1.13, SMF 2.0 RC4 Security Patch, and SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 5
« Reply #99 on: February 12, 2011, 11:17:26 AM »
Thanks, like to see the changes