Database Changes in SMF 2.0 - Part 2

[Thantos]

Try and identify the problem areas and improve them.

[Sverre]

Even if the only solution is to remove a feature or two? In that case, I think I'll root for some unexpected slowness associated with Karma...

On a more serious note, is there anything in particular which makes you (or Grudge, since he's the one who seemed a bit concerned) worry about 2.0's performance?

[SleePy]

Most likely he is just wondering about a really big smf site using the new database abstraction method in 2.0. Bens big site will show greatly the performance gain or loss.

[rommul]

sorry for the offtopic, just wanted to ask Ben if they (the supporters) are really intend to put money and buy the club from the investors?

and ontopic: I spotted that demonoid.com started a forum and use SMF for it. It's a very dynamic one, >180k posts with more 100k users in less then 3 month (started 14 nov). Using 1.1.4 so when the time came for upgrading to 2.0 they also will have an idea about speed and performance progress or regress

[Nao 尚]

and ontopic: I spotted that demonoid.com started a forum and use SMF for it. It's a very dynamic one, >180k posts with more 100k users in less then 3 month (started 14 nov). Using 1.1.4 so when the time came for upgrading to 2.0 they also will have an idea about speed and performance progress or regress

Very fast current speed apparently... Would be curious to know if they're on a classic Apache setup. Or maybe they just have a lot of servers running the thing

[tertunc]

thank you

[alicanim]

sorry guys I am very new with this .. if i ask can you please do pictures (img) explain. I will be so glad i am still learning or any1 can help me? I read all but make me confuse because I didn't understand:(
regards

alicanim

[Dannii]

Unless you're writing a mod, you shouldn't need to worry about any of this.

[lordtron]

So SMF 2.0 should have around the same requirements as 1.1.4 correct? Cause you talked about older versions of PHP...

[Thantos]

So SMF 2.0 should have around the same requirements as 1.1.4 correct? Cause you talked about older versions of PHP...

We have not changed the PHP nor the MySQL version requirements.  Everytime we've needed to use a PHP 5 function we've found a way to write a version of it ourselves for those using PHP 4.

[Dannii]

How many people are still using PHP4?

[Thantos]

How many people are still using PHP4?

Enough to warrant the extra effort.  Such support doesn't have a negative effect on those using PHP 5.

[lordtron]

Yeah not all hosting companies have updated to PHP 5 yet, which sucks. Cause there is so much software out there that uses PHP 5 and more is coming out. But thank god you guys did not goto PHP 5 yet. Cause I am the lucky one that has a hosting company that has not updated just yet. So thanks

[metallica48423]

Theres also a substantial amount of software that has not updated for php5 yet either though, and some are bigger name softwares. 

Sadly, i don't see that changing anytime soon

[Spaceman-Spiff]

Will 2.0 have a query debug feature like 1.0 Beta had? It was a nice benchmarking tool. Or maybe it was in YSE... can't remember, been a while...

[Thantos]

Set $db_show_debug to true in settings.php and it'll show up.

[shadow82x]

I still see many softwares upgrading to php5. Its a bit more efficent than php4?

[SleePy]

http://php.net/manual/en/migration5.php

[Spaceman-Spiff]

Set $db_show_debug to true in settings.php and it'll show up.

Thanks . Didn't know this was made hidden.

[lordtron]

Well glad there is a lot involved in 2.0 Can't wait for it to be released. Hopefully I can run it with my host.